NiH IRC Chatroom

[Aimless]

Good idea?

Bad idea?

Worth considering?

I think we have enough regulars for it to be worth considering :)

[Tundra]

I do not want a NiH chatroom. It then gets so that if you missed out on a conversation, you have NO idea what's going on. That's unfair.

[Elski]

I gotta agree with Tundra on this one. It starts dividing people by timezones... message boards are much better.

[AXJ]

Very bad idea, unless it's only open very occasionally. I'm on one other small arts forum like this one, and their chatroom cut their forum traffic down to something like 10 posts a day. NiH is only just now getting to a point where there's constant conversation on the forum; I wouldn't do anything to endanger that at this point.

[Maegan]

I hate to disagree with an admin on any forum, but I actually think it sounds like a great idea. People here talk to each other online enough, and especially when regulars are online together it would be a great way to chat all at once. The problem Tundra mentions would only be an issue if people started constantly referring to conversations in the chat in various threads, but as it is, if you miss a couple days of NiH, you end up with so many threads to go through and missed conversations that I don't see how it would be any different.

[Elski]

Maegen, I think the difference is in message boards, you can with determination eventually catch up on everything. In a life chat, you don't have that chance.

[vindemiatrix]

I wouldn't join in just 'cause I don't use IRC. *shrugs* I would be open to the idea of unscheduled, random NiH MSN chats (because often there's a lot of NiH-ers on at any one time) as long as, as Maegan said, references to things in the chat were kept down to a minimum. Everyone feels a bit crappy when people are referring to something fun that they weren't a part of.

[flutelet]

I know that I'd be missing out on a lot, for two reasons. One, that right now, there are fourteen people online. I'm usually at school right now, and when I get online later in the night, there are like four. Two, that my mom has forbidden me from any chat room, and I really don't want to disobey.

You guys can make one if you like, but I don't think I'd be using it.

[Tundra]

I'm totally and completely opposed to this idea. I've thought about it before. A chatroom can make or break a forum. It would break this one. We'd all just sit around in the chatroom, and not post.

[aanimo]

I dislike forums with chatrooms, because I don't use IRC and then I lose the thread of conversation when people start bringing stuff in from IRC.

[Aimless]

as I see it, chat outside forums complement life on the forums pretty well :) Last time this was tried, rather than the chan sucking life out of the forum, the forum sucked life out of the chan, tbh ;)

I'm of the view that what happens outside the forum should stay outside the forum, so you'll never see me dragging that stuff in here except possibly in a thread created specifically to discuss the chatroom (quotes ;)) :)

One advantage of having a complementary chatroom is you can have some pretty long good discussions about stuff in real time, without having the forums get cluttered, and esp. without getting them cluttered with, you know, things that might not look so good :o It might also give some of you guys the chance to, I dunno, start up that RPG ;)

I am aware of the possible disadvantages though, and I don't think there's anything wrong with finding them too great to be outweighed by the possible benefits :)

[vindemiatrix]

I think all in all it should probably be Tundra's decision, and she's already made it clear she's against it. Although you say that you wouldn't drag things from the chat into the forum, and that you think the forum would benefit from it, doesn't necessarily make it so. Things from chats may slip in accidentally (and you yourself actually bring in injokes rather a lot, cutting many people out, without a chat), and I have also seen forums die from chatrooms being overrused. The members just moved on, leaving out many who couldn't get or didn't want the particular software they were using to chat.

AXJ's point also stands. This place has just gotten really conversational. I don't think we need a chatroom, and everyone seems happy with NiH the way it is.

I have nothing against members meeting up in unscheduled chats. I mean, a lot of us already talk on MSN, and it wouldn't be radically different, and it gives us a chance to talk with each other in real-time. But as of this moment, I am dubious about a chatroom happening now.

And for me Tundra's word is law anyway. *shrugs*

[LadyAbby]

I am completely and utterly against this idea on all sides because I think that if certain people only were using the chatroom constatly, only talking to each other, things can get exclusive fast. I don't like it at all, I think it is a bad idea.

[Aimless]

and you yourself actually bring in injokes rather a lot, cutting many people out

Infidel scum! You lie!!! (seriously, I hope I don't, 'cause I've kinda resolved to never drag stuff into forums from chat)

[LadyAbby]

Yes you do.

[Aimless]

Yes you do.

Such as what? Tell me! It is your sacred duty!

[vindemiatrix]

There's one. Also, a recent example... I can't remember for the life of me what thread it was, but you went off on a ramble that was completely bemusing until you explained it as an injoke with Snoozie. I'd find it, but I'm meant to be looking for a job right now.

[Aimless]

There's one. Also, a recent example... I can't remember for the life of me what thread it was, but you went off on a ramble that was completely bemusing until you explained it as an injoke with Snoozie. I'd find it, but I'm meant to be looking for a job right now.

I made that one up, it was just a response to her comment about Elton John covers (in the thread!) :P So I started posted shit from "I'm still standing" :(

The sacred duty one was an expression of my gratitude! (I know that was one of the things you may have been thinking about which is why I said it just now) I was hoping someone would figure out 1. What the expression was, and 2. Where I got it from. If it were an in-joke I'da wanted to keep it all to myself :(

Also I thought almost everyone read your journal, when I posted that :P

EDIT: But, okay, I will stop.

[vindemiatrix]

I have many comments on the posts in my lj. But most of them are by ME. *grin* There's only a few people I think actually read it.

Since I can't think of any other examples off the top of my head, I guess you're off the hook, anyways. *grin*

[Aimless]

No, but you thought I did! I am ON the hook, the hook is my home, you understand??

and before anyone complains, that's from "kiss kiss bang bang", and I demand everyone sees this film right now so that it can become an in-joke.

EDIT: This thread was not supposed to be about me, so toodles.

[snooze]

Nah, I got the Elton John thing after a couple of posts. I was just being slow.

I voted okay on a chatroom because I honestly have nothing against it. I'm not sure what I'd do with it since I've never used IRC, but if I have nothing against it, why should I condemn it? Just to know it's there would be cool if I wanted to quickly resolve a question or something or get really off-topic without cluttering threads and famously hijacking threads as I am often wont to do.

[Maulden]

In the forums I've been to, the chat either added to the stuff on the message board, or it got ignored and went away because nobody was up for real-time conversations. I've yet to see a forum get damaged by a chatroom.

So I vote for the creation of a chat. :P

[Jenevieve]

I voted against for several reasons. First, I've never done a chat before and thus have no idea how to go about doing it and haven't the software/whatever's needed in order to do so. Also, I don't really like the idea of chatting as you don't have the time to sit and formulate your answer the way you do on a forum, and spelling and grammar and how understandable a post is tend to go downhill when that happens. And I also probably wouldn't have the opportunity to be on very often, as the computer I use is a family computer, so people are kicking me off all the time (not to mention school takes up a large part of my day, and I can't really chat online during school). And my final reason is also the reason other people have given, in that people inevitably (even if they don't mean to) refer to things that were discussed elsewhere and that would make me feel very left out of NiH culture.